Pack-rape not pre-meditated?

Does judgement

reflect the culture

of our community?

http://sunlive.co.nz/news/36028-pyes-pa-pack-rapists-sentenced.html

The Honourable Justice

http://www.alta2011.com/keynote_speakers.html

An appeal to Justice

http://www.sunlive.co.nz/news/57374-convicted-rapists-appeal-case.html

How do you judge young “respectable” high achievers with jobs and future prospects?

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/bay-of-plenty-times/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503343&objectid=11084147

Does commercial law give a good background for judging cases involving sex offenders?

Is hitting someone worth greater punishment than raping someone?

 

Does judgement

reflect the culture

of our community?

 

Who is teaching this culture?

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  1. That’s odd, I noticed that “Related” posts have popped up all on their own! Do I have no say in what is considered ‘related?’ Oh! Like how it is with relatives, too!

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  2. I just find it disturbing. People are responsible for their own behaviour, they need to be made accountable, or lessons are not learned.

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  3. I just get so frustrated. It’s not right. I find myself feeling hopeless thinking about situations like this. Yes there was a win, BUT the process was unnecessarily long and indicates a systematic lack of regard for women by the legal system and the community in general.

    Unacceptable.

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    • I agree about the systematic lack of regard. I am most impressed by the Crown Solicitor, and that these young men were actually taken to court and convicted. That in itself gives me some hope. Although, with the appeals, I find myself thinking, “We shall see.”

      My faith is what gets me through the ‘hopeless’ feeling. Although our justice system may fail, I believe that there is a higher justice, and mercy, which is about to take effect on everyone on earth.

      It’s not just women who suffer from the lack of regard. As much as it is hard for women in this circumstance, I believe it is harder for men who suffer in the same way.

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      • I honestly don’t feel like it can be stated generically that either sex has it harder than the other when they are victims of sexual violence.

        Yes I do believe that each gender experiencing it would come with a unique set of physical and emotional affects, though it is different for every single individual and there is are so many factors to consider that the pain simply cannot be measured on any scale.

        Having researched the sexual trafficking of women and children and worked with children and young people in the out of home care system, something I would agree on is the lack of regard across the board – when it comes to any level of sexual violence. There are stereotypes and stigmas attached that make it extremely difficult for any victim to be heard in the first place, let alone get get justice in the system.

        Thanks so much for taking the time to comment and for the comforting words 🙂

        Miss Lou
        xx

      • Oh goodness, I’m sorry I didn’t mean to come across like the effect of trauma is any different between men and women. Simply that it seems more difficult for a man to come forward and find support when raped – as in, they are less likely to come forward than a woman.
        In effect, the same fight for support for women, also needs to extend to men who have been abused.

        I guess I am also pointing out that children can be girls *or* boys, the sex trafficking crowd abuse both.

      • They absolutely can. Sexual abuse is not restricted to only women, and I agree wholeheartedly 🙂

        I’d also like to share that although I indicated an awareness of the lack of regard for women in the justice system in relation to sexual abuse I did so because it was directly relevant to the topic at hand.

        I am aware that sexual abuse and trafficking occurs to boys & men as well as women and girls. (as well as babies of both sexes) So to cover all bases – in my experience, there is not enough support available to any victim of sexual violence in most cases. (any that I have been aware of, anyway).

        I also do understand the difficulties you mention – i.e, the response of someone responding to reports of a man being raped or abused. There is a need for specialised support for each sex and age group.

        Totally understand where you are coming from.

      • Totally agree with you! Thanks for bringing it out so eloquently!

      • The other thing that is even less ‘accepted’ and therefore harder to find support for those who suffer, is when the abuse is carried out by a female.

      • I agree with that statement. It is very possible and more common than people think. It just is not spoken about as much – it needs to be, I think.

      • Darn hard to talk about these things.

        Any situation where it becomes one person’s word against another’s becomes a difficult situation, because the one reporting a crime risks having it turned back against them as a case of defamation, or perjury. Or they risk their lives, in the case of witnesses/victims of crimes being murdered in order to silence their testimony.

        What gets to me is how the police did not follow due procedure, in the Louise Nicholas case. As much as public awareness may change, how hard will it be to change the views of those in positions of power?

        The sex trafficking is a huger version of this pack-rape reported in the news today. And yet, in New Zealand at least, there was nothing set up to deal with organized crime until quite recently. It is far bigger than most people in the general public imagine. And actually incredibly difficult for most people to imagine, full stop.

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